Tuesday, June 17, 2008

Thanks, you got my attention!

I have been contemplating taking my blog down, or simply posting there and copying no one.  I appreciate those of you who took the time and energy to write to me re: my christian lover.  My apologies for once again knowing no boundaries, as the shrink once said, being "socially inappropriate"".
 
(*my surprise is that I copied oh so few of you on this set of notes, guess it struck a chord...I don't have a mass email list I just pick names I think may be interested.  This time I only copied 13 individuals...and got more feedback than almost ever on any topic...5 notes so far and counting!  WOW!)
 
I find it entertaining to argue with knuckleheads.
And, entertaining myself (onanism!) no one can argue with. 
Sharing, but being irritating, is not acceptable...TO ME.
 
Well beyond entertainment, I use exchanges such as that, usually confined to some hidden corner of the internet, to hone my arguments.  (Like I need a reason?  LOL)
 
Hence some of your visceral reactions, as I'm getting GOOD at it.
 
google schmuckfresser to discover one of my major crime scenes. 
The thread there concerned "favorite Swear words" and I found that one was yet to be on the net...so I'll always be the first internet reference to SCHMUCKFRESSER. 
 
Almost makes me sad I won't have grandchildren for that legacy...that site holds over 4000 posts by me, mostly responding to or baiting knuckleheads.
 
You can't teach a pig to whistle, believe it.
 
FOR THE RECORD: 
My sister reminds me that she's the concubine, and her boyfriend is the fornicator.  Glad to clear that up.
 
If you want to know what schmuckfresser means...well...
 
Happy trails...I'm contemplating my next move.

My christian (small case "c") love responds...again...(LAST FROM ME ANYWAY)

Dear Laura:  So glad you are showing your face to the world, I tried to protect you from this, but hey...your choice.
 
P.S. Theosodic is not a word.  If you meant Theosophism, I can't be that, since it includes mysticism. 
Your confusion astounds.  Thanks for playing...my BRIGHT friends wonder why I bother, but I figure our next step is to create a Theosodic Church, thanks for the word, I'm running for "Pope of Theosodicism"!
(Got to get onto Cafe Press quick and buy the T-Shirt!)
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Well, if He doesn't exist as you say, you can't go to heaven since you are not holy enough for the God who created you.  But see, I know Him, and have accepted Him and His sacrifice so I, because of His  sacrifice have the right to.  I am not worthy either.
   ***He doesn't exist and there is no heaven and we'll both be quietly dead far too soon.  Live long and die off.

Wisdom begins with the Word of God, not with what you think, so you may think yourself wise, but you have been made a fool.  You might think, but you have no wisdom according to the Word of God.
What I am served is the Word of God, thank you for affirming that.
   ***No, thank you for letting me know how limited your horizons are.

I only hate Satan and the people who evangelize his teachings. 
   ***As you like (or hate). 
 
You hate God's creation, I don't. 
    *** Interesting claim, can you substantiate it?  God didn't create anything, so it is hard to hate it firstly.
 
He created PEOPLE to take care of His creation, but you hate that idea. 
   ***We're certainly doing a stellar job.
 
That is great to call VHEMT a choice.  All religions are choices, God doesn't force Himself on anyone.  It is always a decision to follow Him or not.  You start with a Theosodic belief, and decide what you want to belief.  I start with the WISDOM of GOD, and let it end there.  What is better, the Wisdom of God, or his created being who wants to decide what to believe.  That is no choice to the rest of us
   ***FREEDOM of belief doesn't mean freedom from making mistakes, and you are a prime example. 

You can go on to hell, that is your choice, but your evangelizing to others is a different matter. 
   ***How is it different than you evangelizing?
 
If you would just keep your theosodic beliefs to yourself, no problem. The problem is when you cause others to be affirmed in their ways.
    ***Others must defend themselves from my onslaughts as they so choose.   You don't give people much credit for having minds of their own or an ability to pick wheat from chaff.

That's a great joke, the $200, will you joke about it forever, I hope I get to look down to you once you die, because you are the root of a lot of evil since you are evangelizing theosodic beliefs. 
   ***theosodic...wonder what you mean?  Your self righteousness will certainly give god plenty to think about...glad you got the joke anyway, I'm still laughing.
 
Just remember, there are different levels of hell, and I am sure that a special level will be for those that helped take others with them.  Satan will be laughing at you all the way.
    ***We will all wake up dead someday.  Live long and die off.

It is simple.  My objection is that you are espousing beliefs that affirm people's theosodism.  If all you did is not have kids that is one thing.  But I am sure you fornicate, maybe I am wrong and you are married, but I doubt it.
   *** I fornicate at every opportunity, are you looking to hook up?  By the way, my sister is a concubine and fornicator too, according to her boyfriend's daughter...Runs in the family!

The definition of religion has nothing to do with money or spiritual guidance.  It has to do with who you look to for morality, it can be you, as it is in this case.  It doesn't need a place of worship.  You do seek to define morality by saying the Bible is wrong about children.  Most religions do not have a hierarchy or bureaucracy.  You don't need a book, it can just be a set of beliefs.  So it covers EVERY CRITERIA for a religion.
   ***Sorry, vhemt covers NO CRITERIA of religion, and nothing you said here refutes that.
   ***Morality is built into our very beings.  You obviously missed that part of the lecture.  That's how people who have never heard of jesus or bibles have morals too!  It is part of being human, we're ANIMALS that are SOCIAL.  Morality is what governs our social behaviors, and is BUILT IN.  You didn't become a moral actor by reading a book.
Lastly, I only speak to have you not go to hell, not for any reason of my own.
   ***Oh, now you tell me!
OK, apologies to those who cringe at the thought of another round of this, I'll desist.
 
THEOSODIC PARABLE # 1 - from the Pope of Theosodicism...
 
NEVER TRY TO TEACH A PIG TO WHISTLE,
IT WILL FRUSTRATE YOU, BUT IT ANNOYS THE PIG.

My christian (small case "c") love responds...

Dear Lover you responded:
"Well you sure have the arrogance to go with it.  You are not religious, and hate Jesus, but quote him.  That sure is great.  Can't you think at all.  I guess not, to be a VHEMTer. "
So, I wrote:
I have arrogance and you told me to shut up?
Can you think at all, or do you believe everything that you are served up?
Ho boy.
 
To which you responded:
 
No, I believe that which comes from the Word of God.  You are arrogant because you say, in effect all religions are equal, and that VHEMT is not a religion.  It has a set of beliefs just like all religions do, and it has a goal to evangelize people in those beliefs all around the world.  How could that not be religion?  I only asked you to stop spouting your "beliefs" because you are directing people towards the theosodic way.
 
0.  I quoted the word of god, and follow His proscription to have no gods before having him. I recommend it.  You admit, WITH PRIDE, that you do believe what you are served.  Very good example of critical thinking, but, oh, I forgot, I was the one that isn't thinking....(Transference Anyone?)
 
Jesus never existed.  I suppose I could hate Jesus, and probably the Easter Bunny, Santa and other figments... but I don't have the energy or desire to HATE anyone.  You might learn something from that...
 
1.  All religions are equal.  Equally bad at explaining the truth about the reality we see around us...HENCE prevelent mental disease, armies and nations motivated by false assumptions, etc. etc. etc.  FAITH IS DANGEROUS ON IT'S FACE!  That's why I'm a BRIGHT, to protect ALL of our rights to freedom of thought and to ensure a continued and every stronger separation of religion and government.
 
2.  VHEMT is not a religion nor a "set of beliefs" as you say!  No diety, no holy book, no places of worship, no hierarchy of bureaucracy, no philosophy of life, no attempt to define morality and ethics, no commands of how to live day to day, no money changing hands, no "spiritual" guidance, no attempt to explain ANYTHING about the world around us...sorry, fails EVERY criteria for being a religion...
 
VHEMT is simply an individual choice, and I hope you choose correctly.
 
3.  Yes, one goal is to share our INDIVIDUAL DECISION (BASED ON INDIVIDUAL REASONS, NOT DICTATED BY OUR GROUP), but mostly we preach to the choir.
 
4.  You asked me to stop spouting my beliefs, I find that quite fascinating.  I never suggested you do the same.  Once again, Mighty "christian" of you ma'am.
 
5.  You have also told me I'll be going to hell.  If I pass GO, do I collect the $200?
 
6.  Most Importantly:  What exactly is your objection to VHEMT?  Why do you troll our group if you are so bothered by this decision we've made?