Wednesday, February 13, 2008

Re: U.S. Christians suggest killing Muslims to "purify the Earth"

Yesterday, Fred wrote to me and said:
 
 
I don't believe Christians teach their children to strap bombs to themselves and blow up
  infidels.
 
I replied that KKKers claim to be Christian too, but, as you'll see below, Fred decided not to understand my meaning, or to be obtuse in his response. 
 
The article is advocating just that, strap on your rifle and kill a Muslim, there is no difference Fred, between the hated Islamic Enemy and the so called Christian response!
 
Just because a human bomber is described as a Muslim Extremist, doesn't mean they are Muslim or Extremist.  At least some of them are Psychotic Extremists, but they live in a Muslim country...so, our press calls them Muslim Extremists. 
 
This is exactly what the article was about, how our very worldviews have been tainted by the obsessing over MUSLIMistism (to coin a colbertism).
 
The Christians being written about advocate arms be taken up against Muslims!  
 
How incredibly hypocritical and unChristian in their response, forget turn the other cheek, let's sign up for perpetual war, to please god...
 
On Feb 13, 2008 3:22 PM, Fred wrote:
 
I don't think 10% of Christians belong to the KKK.
Hi.  My point is that 100% of KKKers claim to be Christian.  Do you agree they are Christian?  Or are you saying that they just aren't very many in number, so, it doesn't matter if they claim to be Christian?  Or what?  Labeling a homicide bomber a muslim extremist is just like labeling them a KKKer Fred.  Do you ever hear the term Psychotic Extremist, yet most of them are that too?
 
Are you claiming that 10% of Muslims world wide are terrorists Fred?  Do you know how many that is?   I'd be plenty worried too, if that were the case, and nothing our military could do would stop it either, believe me! 
 
Let's do the Math:
 
About 2 Billion Muslims in the World Fred.
If 10% are terrorists we have 200,000,000 people to worry about. 
 
That's like 1 out of 20 adults in the world Fred...no police no military, nothing could stop them if they were in any way organized.
 
 
Besides, Muslims -- like about 10,000,000 of them, are teaching kids today to blow themselves up to kill infidels.
 
So, let's work on fixing that, if it is true.  How about spending 10% of what we're spending to fight terrorism via the military means and develop free solar powered PCs wireless to satellites, distribute them any way we have to, so local governments can't control content and then see what happens in 25 years or so...education is the key Fred, both for Christians and Muslims.
 
But you don't see any difference.
Are you advocating their deaths? 
Are you suggesting the correct response to their harmful schooling of horrible hatred for Christians is to kill Muslims?
 
Then, you are correct Fred, there is no difference between Christian Extremists and the Muslim Extremists...

U.S. Christians suggest killing Muslims to "purify the Earth"

As Frish (that's me sport's fans, this note has a wide distribution!) said (during the 2004 "political season"), whomever wins it won't be good for Muslims...since Kerry and Bush were both Skull & Bones (for example) and that's just another name for Crusaders.
 
A recent conversation with a Bright US Navy Warrior confirmed that the pressure for all to be "christian" in the military is extreme, from officers and chaplins on down...nice to see a reference to the The Military Religious Freedom Foundation.
 
I have seen video and read about "Haji" chants/songs (cute little military ditties that dehumanize Muslims so to make it easier to kill them, spread informally from unit to unit but not discouraged by officers...).
 
THE ARTICLE COPIED BELOW IS EXTRAORDINARILY DISTURBING, SINCE THE RELIGIO-PROPOGANDA IS SO IMBEDDED IN THE CULTURE, AND THE MILITARY...and spread by our "leaders"  "Islamo-Fascism" is the weirdest combination of concepts ever foisted on an horrifically and purposely ignorant public.
 
Actually the title of the article is way too tolerant by stating this is an "emerging" situation.  This has been in full force for 30 years or more, thanks to Tim LaHaye and other Dominionist/Second Coming touts...
 
Dealing with terrorists is actually a very soluable problem.  Make it a police problem, since they are political criminals, and not a military problem, since they aren't actually "at war" with us.  For example, to whom would we surrender in Iraq?  How can we be at war and not know to whom we ought surrender?  Doesn't follow any logic, we can't be at war at all...
 
Dealing with individuals acting crazy will never stop.  Dealing with terrorists can be done...It is very possible that the lies spread by the groups fomenting anti-Islamism are actually terrorists...criminality limited to liable, but hey...no different than Holocaust deniers.  That's criminal in Europe!
 
The Earth will be "purified" with or without christians, since it isn't nice to fool Mother Nature...but that's a different note...
 
*(Oh, yeah, spread the meme - see http://www.the-brights.net/ and, remember "REALITY NOW!" (Motto of the LA Brights!))
 
Christian Right's Emerging Deadly Worldview: Kill Muslims to Purify the Earth
By Chris Hedges, Truthdig. Posted February 12, 2008.
 
Christian extremists are preaching a war against tolerance to target and persecute all Muslims, including the 6 million who live in the U.S.
 
Walid Shoebat, Kamal Saleem and Zachariah Anani are the three stooges of the Christian right. These self-described former Muslim terrorists are regularly trotted out at Christian colleges -- a few days ago they were at the Air Force Academy -- to spew racist filth about Islam on behalf of groups such as Focus on the Family. It is a clever tactic. Curly, Larry and Mo, who all say they are born-again Christians, engage in hate speech and assure us it comes from personal experience. They tell their audiences that the only way to deal with one-fifth of the world's population is by converting or eradicating all Muslims. Their cant is broadcast regularly on Fox News, including the Bill O'Reilly and Neil Cavuto shows, as well as on numerous Christian radio and television programs. Shoebat, who has written a book called Why We Want to Kill You, promises in his lectures to explain the numerous similarities between radical Muslims and the Nazis, how "Muslim terrorists" invaded America 30 years ago and how "perseverance, recruitment and hate" have fueled attacks by Muslims. 
 
These men are frauds, but this is not the point. They are part of a dark and frightening war by the Christian right against tolerance that, in the moment of another catastrophic terrorist attack on American soil, would make it acceptable to target and persecute all Muslims, including the some 6 million Muslims who live in the United States. These men stoke these irrational fears. They defend the perpetual war unleashed by the Bush administration and championed by Sen. John McCain. McCain frequently reminds listeners that "the greatest danger facing the world is Islamic terrorism," as does Mike Huckabee, who says that "Islamofascism" is "the greatest threat this country [has] ever faced." George W. Bush has, in the same vein, assured Americans that terrorists hate us for our freedoms, not, of course, for anything we have done. Bush described the "war on terror" as a war against totalitarian Islamofascism while the Israeli air force was dropping tens of thousands of pounds of iron fragmentation bombs up and down Lebanon, an air campaign that killed 1,300 Lebanese civilians.
 
The three men tell lurid tales of being recruited as children into Palestinian terrorist organizations, murdering hundreds of civilians and blowing up a bank in Israel. Saleem says that as a child he infiltrated Israel to plant bombs via a network of tunnels underneath the Golan Heights, although no incident of this type was ever reported in Israel. He claims he is descended from the "grand wazir" of Islam, a title and a position that do not exist in the Arab world. They assure audiences that the Palestinians are interested not in a peaceful two-state solution but rather the destruction of Israel, the murder of all Jews and the death of America. Shoebat claims he first came to the United States as part of an extremist "sleeper cell."
 
"These three jokers are as much former Islamic terrorists as 'Star Trek's' Capt. James T. Kirk was a real Starship captain," said Mikey Weinstein, the head of the watchdog group The Military Religious Freedom Foundation. The group has challenged Christian proselytizing in the military and denounced the visit by the men to the Air Force Academy.
 
The speakers include in their talks the superior virtues of Christianity. Saleem, for example, says his world "turned upside down when he was seriously injured in an automobile accident."
 
"A Christian man tended to Kamal at the accident scene, making sure he got the medical treatment he needed," his Web site says. "Kamal's orthopedic surgeon and physical therapist were also Christian men whom over a period of several months ministered the unconditional love of Jesus Christ to him as he recovered. The love and sacrificial giving of these men caused Kamal to cry out to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob acknowledging his need for the Savior. Kamal has since become a man on a new mission, as an ambassador for the one true and living God, the great I Am, Jehovah God of the Bible."
 
This creeping Christian chauvinism has infected our political and social discourse. It was behind the rumor that Barack Obama was a Muslim. Obama reassured followers that he was a Christian. It apparently did not occur to him, or his questioners, that the proper answer is that there is nothing wrong with being a Muslim, that persons of great moral probity and courage arise in all cultures and all religions, including Islam. Christians have no exclusive lock on virtue. But this kind of understanding often provokes indignant rage. 
 
The public denigration of Islam, and by implication all religious belief systems outside Christianity, is part of the triumphalism that has distorted the country since the 9/11 attacks. It makes dialogue with those outside our "Christian" culture impossible. It implicitly condemns all who do not think as we think and believe as we believe as, at best, inferior and usually morally depraved. It blinds us to our own failings. It makes self-reflection and self-criticism a form of treason. It reduces the world to a cartoonish vision of us and them, good and evil. It turns us into children with bombs. 
 
These three con artists are not the problem. There is enough scum out there to take their place. Rather, they offer a window into a worldview that is destroying the United States. It has corrupted the Republican Party. It has colored the news media. It has entered into the everyday clichés we use to explain ourselves to ourselves. It is ignorant and racist, but it is also deadly. It grossly perverts the Christian religion. It asks us to kill to purify the Earth. It leaves us threatened not only by the terrorists who may come from abroad but the ones who are rising from within our midst.
 
Chris Hedges, a Pulitzer prize-winning reporter, was the Middle East bureau chief for The New York Times. He spent seven years in the Middle East and reported frequently from Iran. His latest book is American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America.