Being worried about the sender, I respond with the goal of tipping her obviously fragile mental health over the edge altogether. So she can get the help she is crying out for...that's true LOVE of fellow man, Ma'am...(those copied can laugh or cry as you so wish!)
The sender was prompted to write as a result of my volunteer status in the VHEMT, (see www.vhemt.org) and a recent post no doubt, but as I am also Fearless Leader of the LA Brights, (an organization public opinion holds in slightly higher esteem than VHEMT, but not by much, I do know how to pick 'em eh? (http://brights.meetup.com/286/)), I repeat the email, in it's unedited breathlessness, and comment on each phrase below.
From someone who claims to love me!
"Since you want to talk about love, please remember what Jesus told the religious men, who did not want him, he did not speak kindly to them. Vhemt is also a religion, and you are just as religious as those people were. Remember the Romans who went into the Coliseum and were eaten by the lions. It is not that they would not worship the emperor that was the problem, according to Roman law, it was okay to both worship the emperor and Jesus. They just refused to worship anyone in addition to Jesus. You want to say all religions are the same, and to you it is loving people. Well, Jesus said HE IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT, AND NOONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT BY HIM. You are either calling Him a liar by your stances or He is not who He says He is. So please don't call yourself a Christian. I love you, but God will just vie with you for a while, after that He gives you over to what you want. And you say I don't exhibit love by speaking the Truth. This doesn't work, under any circumstances. The result of your religion is death, not life, and I just pray that your voice is silenced ASAP AMEN and AMEN. May God's word be true and every man be a liar forever and ever."
My comments have a *** in front.
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Since you want to talk about love,
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Since you want to talk about love,
***I really prefer to make love. I don't talk about it much.
please remember what Jesus told the religious men, who did not want him, he did not speak kindly to them.
***Born Jewish, I wouldn't remember anything attributed to the man-god story book character named Jesus...(or did you say Mithras, Krishna, Horus, Zoraster, or a dozen other man-gods who were born of virgins, were ressurected, etc. etc. etc.).
Vhemt is also a religion
***VHEMT is nothing like a religion. It isn't even a philosophy or a way of life. It is only a decision by individuals not to procreate.
***I hear similar arguments by the religious that Atheism is a religion. Weird, however, being a BRIGHT: I have no belief in fantasy, mysticism, superstition, supernatural, magic or other speculations that are beyond the nature that we see around us, and am in no way religious. I do have well justified opinions however, so I kinda get what you meant.
and you are just as religious as those people were.
***okay. Since I'm not, I suppose they weren't either.
Remember the Romans who went into the Coliseum and were eaten by the lions.
***Yes, I'm certain they put up a good fight. Thumbs UP!
It is not that they would not worship the emperor that was the problem, according to Roman law, it was okay to both worship the emperor and Jesus. They just refused to worship anyone in addition to Jesus.
***Break the law, go to jail.
You want to say all religions are the same, and to you it is loving people.
***I do? I did? I can't even understand what you are saying. Religions have one thing in common, THEY ALL SUGGEST: "Love each other as you would be loved." I found that curious, then discovered that this is actually the DEFINITION OF SOCIAL PRIMATE BEHAVIOR. If humans didn't have this BUILT INTO OUR GENES, we'd eat our own children, and those of our neighbors and the neighbors too...so, all world religions recognize this TRUTH, and espouse it, but they didn't create it, they only REFLECT this truth, and attempt to claim it as their own. However, it is the very DEFINITION OF HUMAN NATURE, to be sure. Of course I love people, they are my species. Just "pray with me" that they don't have any more kids...thanks.
Well, Jesus said HE IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT, AND NOONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT BY HIM.
***However, FIRST The Father said: "Have No Other Gods Before Me!"
I continue to have NO gods (before I have him). You ought obey the Father as I do.
You are either calling Him a liar by your stances or He is not who He says He is.
***"He" never existed except in a set of books that you seem to ascribe magical powers. And, yes, anyone saying otherwise is lying or confused beyond my comprehension.
So please don't call yourself a Christian.
***Never have NEVER WILL! I'll take that loving advice.
I love you,
***Sounds tempting, but I may be interpreting that differently than you mean.
but God will just vie with you for a while, after that He gives you over to what you want.
***There can't be anything like god, and I can prove it. I'm not waiting, I have what I want right now, thanks.
and you say I don't exhibit love by speaking the Truth.
*** I said nothing of the sort. However, if you think you are speaking truth, you might as well be speaking in tongues...never was a Jesus, the bible was written by men and selected to be as you see it by men, and nothing in the world shows any evidence othewise.
This doesn't work, under any circumstances.
*** HUH? Right. HUH?
The result of your religion is death,
***(Actually, though history, the result of YOUR religion is death, probably another discussion altogether see Crusades, Morality Play, Pogrom and Catholic and Protestant complicity in Hitler's rise and the Holocaust...)
***DEATH is a result of SEX. Before sexual reproduction things grew and split, if they didn't get eaten or drown in their own waste, they COULDN'T DIE from old age. After sexual reproduction began, the parents have to die to make room for the offspring.
not life, and I just pray that your voice is silenced ASAP
***Mighty Christian of you. Don't know if you are from the USA or not (I suspect so, there aren't a lot of folk in the rest of the world who hold the views you claim above) but here in the USA freedom of THOUGHT is still practiced.
***Nice example of the love you claim for me. Thanks a heap.
***With a lover like you I've just had a religious conversion: Onanism - it's the coming thing!
AMEN and AMEN.
***Sounds sexist somehow. Here in West Hollywood, marriage is now legal for EVERYONE, as of 5:01pm today, which is really funny because June 16th is the 29th anniversary of my own marriage, which ended in 2003! Hope amen and amen live happily and CHILDFREE, ever after...etc.
May God's word be true
***May?
and every man be a liar forever and ever.
***What a shockingly dismal worldview. Are you one of those lying "men" too dear?
Thanks for sharing...and hope you feel better now that you've cast the devil from our midst...
Wasn't there something in there about judging not? Hmmm
PLEASE, DON'T HAVE KIDS...THEY'LL REQUIRE DEPROGRAMMING (and prozac).
