Fred - you quote S. Fred Singer? Debunked all over the place since 1997 and before! The title of his presentation says it all - Global Warming - Man Made or Natural! He doesn't dispute that change is happening, just that humans aren't responsible somehow. Which flies in the face of all scientific evidence, but hey, why should he worry about that?!?
Being a contrarian, he ought to know a little something about making money during global climate change. He gets paid big bucks to buck the trend, (Not a trend exactly, simply total consensus by every major scientific body, NASA, the US Military (Pentagon Report on Security Threats due To Global Warming) and by every major government in the world and a lot of minor ones too (cities and states and etc. that human activities are affecting climate change!).
Fred, c'mon, what kind of conspiracy theory is that, when there is consensus world wide that climate change due to human action is true and happening...could all those scientists and governments be in on something nefarious??? Why?
Do you even wonder why F. Fred Singer is the only guy you can quote? No one else in the climatological field agrees with him. What makes him so smart? LOL
Get real, follow the real money. He thinks that Greenpeace somehow benefits from global warming scares? With "billions" (not likely) of dollars?
Do you think that global OIL doesn't benefit to the TRILLIONS of dollars by keeping the status quo?
Greenpeace didn't cause all the governments in the world to "capitulate" to some phony theory! How real is that Fred, C'mon!
Science my friend, that is the key. Not arm waving, rhetoric filled crap from S. Fred Singer, who cherry picks what he says to you...For example, sure, a "slight" increase in CO2 might have beneficial effects.
Did he fail to mention that the CURRENT LEVEL OF CO2 IS HIGHER THAN IT HAS BEEN IN 500,000 YEARS OR MORE?
Fred, you turn on your stove and put a kettle of water to boil.
The burners are on really hot for a long time before the water boils, no?
Same thing with the Earth's atmosphere and biosphere. The CO2 is like the burner, and it has been turned WAY WAY UP! No one disputes this, see any "hockey stick" diagram.
Think about how water boils in the pan. There are chaotic currents set up, and eventually a bubble of steam forms at some imperfection in the bottom of the pan. That sets up an entirely different set of currents, and more chaos ensues, until boiling occurs...
Now, the items being heated are the atmosphere and the oceans. The evidence is the thinnest and smallest polar ice cap ever, for example. And, just like in the pan, not everything is nice and even. Some years are warmer or dryer or cooler, it is a chaotic response to the CO2 input into the system. However, the warming is insidious and continues, all the time, AND WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE OUR OUTPUT OF CO2, THUS INCREASING THE MOMENTUM OF CHANGE, LIKE WE'RE TURNING UP THE STOVE!
Fred, if we wait to try to fix things after the water is boiling, it will be way way way too late. (In the reality in which I live, that we only partially share it seems, it is already too late Fred, the momentum of warming is already beyond our capability to change, and it will lead to a greatly diminished human carrying capacity in the biosphere (in other words, great numbers of humans will die due to the heat waves, flooding, ice melting, forest fires, and other climate catastrophes that will be ever increasing. It may already be too late, the balance of the climatic equilibrium may already be so far off kilter that as the pendulum swings it will simply wipe humanity off the planet...as it rebounds like a ringing bell from man's intervention.)
Can't imagine why you choose not to believe this, it is not only rational it is real.
The true irony is that S. Fred Singer's mis-information simply increases the probability that the deleterious effects of human climate disruption will be far more serious than otherwise.
Fred, I don't have kids, so in truth, I don't care that much...too bad you can't see through whatever fog-lensed glasses you choose to wear.
The Global Warming Scare
"We asked the important question of whether there is appreciable man-made warming today. We presented evidence that indicates there is not, thereby suggesting that attempts by governments to control greenhouse-gas emissions are pointless and unwise. Nevertheless. we have state governors calling for CO2 emissions limits on cars; we have city mayors calling for mandatory CO2 controls; we have the Supreme Court declaring CO2 a pollutant that may have to be regulated; we have every industrialized nation (with the exception of the U.S. and Australia) signed on to the Kyoto Protocol; and we have ongoing international demands for even more stringent controls when Kyoto expires in 2012. What's going on here? [. . .]
"It is [. . .] worth noting that tens of thousands of interested persons benefit directly from the global warming scare -- at the expense of the ordinary consumer. Environmental organizations globally, such as Greenpeace, the Sierra Club, and the Environmental Defense Fund, have raked in billions of dollars. Multi-billion-dollar government subsidies for useless mitigation schemes are large and growing. Emission trading programs will soon reach the $100 billion a year level, with large fees paid to brokers and those who operate the scams. In other words, many people have discovered they can benefit from climate scares and have formed an entrenched interest. [. . .]
"The irony is that a slightly warmer climate with more carbon dioxide is in many ways beneficial rather than damaging. Economic studies have demonstrated that a modest warming and higher CO2 levels will increase GNP and raise standards of living, primarily by improving agriculture and forestry. It's a well-known fact that CO2 is plant food and essential to the growth of crops and trees -- and ultimately to the well-being of animals and humans."
-- "Global Warming: Man-Made or Natural?" by S. Fred Singer, Imprimis, the National Speech Digest of Hillsdale College, August 2007, pages 4-5. Subscription free upon request. Address: Hillsdale College, Hillsdale, Michigan 49242. Phone: 800-437-2268.
"We asked the important question of whether there is appreciable man-made warming today. We presented evidence that indicates there is not, thereby suggesting that attempts by governments to control greenhouse-gas emissions are pointless and unwise. Nevertheless. we have state governors calling for CO2 emissions limits on cars; we have city mayors calling for mandatory CO2 controls; we have the Supreme Court declaring CO2 a pollutant that may have to be regulated; we have every industrialized nation (with the exception of the U.S. and Australia) signed on to the Kyoto Protocol; and we have ongoing international demands for even more stringent controls when Kyoto expires in 2012. What's going on here? [. . .]
"It is [. . .] worth noting that tens of thousands of interested persons benefit directly from the global warming scare -- at the expense of the ordinary consumer. Environmental organizations globally, such as Greenpeace, the Sierra Club, and the Environmental Defense Fund, have raked in billions of dollars. Multi-billion-dollar government subsidies for useless mitigation schemes are large and growing. Emission trading programs will soon reach the $100 billion a year level, with large fees paid to brokers and those who operate the scams. In other words, many people have discovered they can benefit from climate scares and have formed an entrenched interest. [. . .]
"The irony is that a slightly warmer climate with more carbon dioxide is in many ways beneficial rather than damaging. Economic studies have demonstrated that a modest warming and higher CO2 levels will increase GNP and raise standards of living, primarily by improving agriculture and forestry. It's a well-known fact that CO2 is plant food and essential to the growth of crops and trees -- and ultimately to the well-being of animals and humans."
-- "Global Warming: Man-Made or Natural?" by S. Fred Singer, Imprimis, the National Speech Digest of Hillsdale College, August 2007, pages 4-5. Subscription free upon request. Address: Hillsdale College, Hillsdale, Michigan 49242. Phone: 800-437-2268.
