Sunday, November 13, 2011

letter to editors of Time regarding their "report" on overpopulation.

Okay, I get it, you bring us to the edge of our seats, with the certaintude that a huge extinction of other species is going on, our population growth is unsustainable, we're polluting and destroying our "habitat" (It's OUR PLANET...)  Yet, somehow, we'll be able to feed everyone too...if politics *(pesky stuff politics) gets out of the way...and some future genius' show us the way out of our predicament. 

Life is an interconnected set of chemistry and physics.  
Extinctions of species is a problem, since ecologies are made up of groups of species.
Extinction creates chaos in those systems.
Take a peek at Humboldt Squids and Sharks...no more sharks, and loads of squid...eating things we'd like to eat, like salmon, the population of which is plummeting.  

Do you really think we can have all these people on the planet, and still live in total harmony with the environment, so we don't continue to destroy our own nest?

I'm not suggesting, BY ANY MEANS, that anyone who is already alive should have anything but a long and enjoyable life.

I can make the case, however, that IT IS IMMORAL FOR ANYONE ON THE PLANET TO HAVE CHILDREN, ANYWHERE, ANYWHEN.

We've ALREADY caused enough destruction to preclude our continued existence, past 100 years from now, or less.  Few of us have reached this conclusion, that flies in the face of every societal norm, since the total purpose of a society is it's continued existence, and we're suggesting extinction, in a totally non-coercive way, by voluntarily not having offspring. 

Check this out, if you've read this far.
We're vehement (and serious too!)

--
FRISH

Statement of the UN Sec General

If this has already been posted, sorry about that, 
Time Magazine is a pretty mainstream organ for overpopulation coverage...
and such and intriguing report...

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said:
"Yesterday I spoke to students, pupils of a public high school [in Manhattan]. I was very much moved. 
Everybody brought small and big placards reading: "7 Billion, I'm a Part of 7 Billion." 
It was quite moving; I saw very strong signs of hope."

To which one might say: "Huh?" 

Oh, sorry, if the Sec Genr'l isn't the ULTIMATE DIPLOMAT he's in the wrong job..

This is one part of the Time magazine online special section on overpopulation...
find the selection bar and visit other fascinating insights into the population of humanity on Planet Earth.
Here's the main article, all about how populations of humans and other animals may not be a comfortable fit.
Seems the animals are losing!
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FRISH

Even in Time magazine...it's not the warming, it's the people!

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2097720_2097782_2097814,00.html 
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FRISH

Republican Candidates tortuous torture theory

Republican presidential hopefuls Herman Cain and Michele Bachmann both say they would reinstate waterboarding during interrogations of suspected terrorists, while rivals Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman both say they see the procedure as torture. 

Considering that all legal precedent in the US says waterboarding is torture (see definition of torture), it's fascination how the rule of law is interpreted...


Best yet, torture doesn't work during interrogations.

This isn't guesswork by some bleeding heart liberal, it is documented by those who actually endured torture...
any answer you want to hear will eventually be discovered, 


They waterboarded KSM 183 times in a month, and he either never got asked about couriers guarding OBL, or he avoided answering the question honestly. Had KSM revealed that detail, Bush might have gotten OBL 8 years ago.

And just as importantly, the whole time KSM was shielding Abu Ahmed's true identity while being waterboarded, KSM was also lying to the CIA about where OBL was. When asked what things he lied about under torture at his 2007 CSRT hearing, KSM specifically said he first said he didn't know of OBL's whereabouts, and then confirmed false locations for him, in response to the torture.

President [of the Tribunal]: What I'm trying to get at is any statement that you made was it because of this treatment, to use your word, you claim torture. Do you make any statements because of that?

[snip]

KSM: I make up stories just location UBL. Where is he? I don't know. Then he torture me. Then I said yes, he is in this area or this is al Qaida which I don't him. I say no. They torture me.

So at the time when KSM was guarding crucial information about Abu Ahmed and with it OBL's location, he was making shit up to get the torture to stop.

They characterize this forced drowning as acceptable.

They risk the lives and safety of US soldiers taken prisoner, without any benefit.

The litmus test of beliefs about torture 
(not to mention the no Tax Pledge - anyone who refuses to consider fiscal options ought not be able to be in political office at any level!), 
differentiates legitimate candidates from the rest.
-- 
FRISH