Sunday, November 13, 2011

Republican Candidates tortuous torture theory

Republican presidential hopefuls Herman Cain and Michele Bachmann both say they would reinstate waterboarding during interrogations of suspected terrorists, while rivals Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman both say they see the procedure as torture. 

Considering that all legal precedent in the US says waterboarding is torture (see definition of torture), it's fascination how the rule of law is interpreted...


Best yet, torture doesn't work during interrogations.

This isn't guesswork by some bleeding heart liberal, it is documented by those who actually endured torture...
any answer you want to hear will eventually be discovered, 


They waterboarded KSM 183 times in a month, and he either never got asked about couriers guarding OBL, or he avoided answering the question honestly. Had KSM revealed that detail, Bush might have gotten OBL 8 years ago.

And just as importantly, the whole time KSM was shielding Abu Ahmed's true identity while being waterboarded, KSM was also lying to the CIA about where OBL was. When asked what things he lied about under torture at his 2007 CSRT hearing, KSM specifically said he first said he didn't know of OBL's whereabouts, and then confirmed false locations for him, in response to the torture.

President [of the Tribunal]: What I'm trying to get at is any statement that you made was it because of this treatment, to use your word, you claim torture. Do you make any statements because of that?

[snip]

KSM: I make up stories just location UBL. Where is he? I don't know. Then he torture me. Then I said yes, he is in this area or this is al Qaida which I don't him. I say no. They torture me.

So at the time when KSM was guarding crucial information about Abu Ahmed and with it OBL's location, he was making shit up to get the torture to stop.

They characterize this forced drowning as acceptable.

They risk the lives and safety of US soldiers taken prisoner, without any benefit.

The litmus test of beliefs about torture 
(not to mention the no Tax Pledge - anyone who refuses to consider fiscal options ought not be able to be in political office at any level!), 
differentiates legitimate candidates from the rest.
-- 
FRISH

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