Sunday, August 31, 2008

In defense of marriage!

I'll make a few in-line comments and then share another article that may be thought provoking.
 
The Homosexual Agenda
FIRST - NO SUCH THING AS A HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA.  THERE IS A CLEAR THEOCRATIC AGENDA, AND THE AUTHOR ESPOUSES THIS...

"The advocates of same-sex marriage do not seek tolerance for homosexuals.
THAT IS CORRECT, THEY SEE CIVIL RIGHTS AFFORDED OTHERS BUT NOT THEM. 
 They have already accomplished this.  Sodomy laws have been struck down.
 Gays and lesbians are free to engage in sexual activity in the privacy of their bedrooms.
HIS PREOCCUPATION WITH WHAT PEOPLE DO IN THEIR BEDROOMS IS FASCINATING, BUT OFF TRACK.  HETEROSEXUALS COMMIT SODOMY FAR MORE FREQUENTLY THAN GAYS, SINCE THERE ARE SO MANY MORE OF THEM, AND THEY ARE EQUALLY PROTECTED UNDER THE LAW! 


"What they now seek is something different: The legitimization of their lifestyle.
BY SAYING THE KEYWORD: LIFESTYLE - THE AUTHOR BELIES HIS LEANINGS.  HE OBVIOUSLY SEES HOMOSEXUALITY AS A CHOICE, NOT A BIOLOGIC IMPERATIVE THAT IS INNATE AND INTO WHICH ONE IS BORN.  DID THE AUTHOR EVER CHOOSE TO BE HETEROSEXUAL?  WHEN?  WHY?  HOW DID HE MAKE THAT CHOICE?  GIVEN THE SOCIETAL PROHIBITIONS AND DISCRIMINATION AGAINST GAYS, WHY WOULD ANYONE BECOME GAY BY CHOICE?  

By pushing for gay marriage, they are demanding that society give its stamp of approval to homosexuality.
WHY SHOULDN'T SOCIETY GIVE IT'S STAMP OF APPROVAL TO HOMOSEXUALITY?  THE AUTHOR DOESN'T SAY FRED.  HMMM, WHAT'S SO WRONG ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY THAT HE CANNOT TURN THE OTHER CHEEK, LOVE HIS NEIGHBOR AS HIMSELF, ACT LIKE A CHRISTIAN IN OTHER WORDS!

The homosexual agenda therefore is not about 'civil rights.'  Rather, it is about taking the sexual revolution to its logical dystopian conclusion -- the creation of a new social order based on moral relativism, hedonism and individual gratification.
WRONG AGAIN.  IT IS ABOUT CIVIL RIGHTS.  PEOPLE IN MARRIAGES COMMIT ADULTERY, ARE HEDONISTIC AND SWAP PARTNERS AND COMMIT LOADS OF OTHER "INDIVIDUAL GRATIFYING" ACTS, WHY DOESN'T THE AUTHOR FIND THEM AT FAULT?

"Ultimately, however, the purpose of marriage -- and of sex -- is not to be 'happy,' 'satisfied,' or 'fulfilled.'  It is to sustain our civilization by reproducing.
MARRIAGE IS NOT ABOUT REPRODUCTION.  ONE CAN EASILY REPRODUCE WITHOUT MARRIAGE.  SO, WHAT IS HE ON ABOUT?
MARRIAGE IS A CONTRACT, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE PROCREATION, BUT IT DOES CONFIR CERTAIN RIGHTS TO THOSE WHO PARTAKE.  WHY SHOULDN'T THESE RIGHTS BE AVAILABLE TO ANY TWO FOLK WHO WISH TO MARRY?  THE AUTHOR DOESN'T SAY!
 
 A society of homosexuals cannot perpetuate itself; it is doomed to extinction.
HAS THE AUTHOR HEARD OF ARTIFICIAL INSEMINATION?  PLENTY OF GAYS ARE PARENTS. MY FRIEND SAM IS GAY, WITHOUT A PARTNER, AND ADOPTED A CHILD.  HE'S RAISING XANDER BY HIMSELF.  SO WHAT?

"Hence, same-sex marriage is an oxymoron.  Marriage is about having children and reproducing -- one generation is transmitted to the next.  The crisis of our age is that we no longer understand this -- or care to.
IT IS SIMPLY AND CLEARLY NOT TRUE.  PLENTY OF PEOPLE GET MARRIED WITHOUT  THOUGHT ABOUT HAVING CHILDREN.  HOW ABOUT PEOPLE GETTING MARRIED IN THEIR 80'S?  THIS GUY IS NUTS.  CRISIS OF OUR AGE?  WHAT CRISIS?
 
Most European countries do not have birthrates necessary to maintain their populations.
THIS ISN'T ON TOPIC AT ALL.
 
 They are gradually dying.
HUH? 
 America's birthrate is slightly higher but has been trending downward for decades."
SO WHAT?  HOW WILL KEEPING GAYS FROM MARRIAGE AFFECT THIS TREND IN ANY WAY?

-- "Marriage Madness and Why It Could Destroy America," by Jeffrey T. Kuhner, The Washington Times National Weekly Edition, June 30, 2008, page 32. Address: 3600 New York Avenue, NE, Washington, DC 20002.
 
THE TITLE OF THE ARTICLE - MARRIAGE MADNESS DESTROYING AMERICA?  HOW SO, HIS ARTICLE DOESN'T SAY!

THE AMERICA IN WHICH I LIVE BELIEVES IN EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL, REGARDLESS OF GENDER, RACE, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, BELIEF, ETC.  WHAT AMERICA IS HE SPEAKING OF, I DON'T WANT TO LIVE THERE.

1.  THE AUTHOR ASSUMES THAT MARRIAGE IS A GOOD THING, BUT DOESN'T CLAIM WHY!

2.  THE AUTHOR ASSUMES THAT PROCREATION IS A GOOD THING, BUT DOESN'T SHOW WHY!  (There are far too many people in the world already, that's what's going to "destroy America" not giving people the right to be equal under the law!)  MARRIAGE CERTAINLY DOESN'T REQUIRE ONE TO PROCREATE, NOR DOES IT MAKE IT ANY EASIER TO HAVE KIDS...IT IS A LEGAL DOCUMENT THAT CONVEYS RIGHTS, AND, THEREFORE IT OUGHT TO CONVEY THOSE RIGHTS TO ALL WHO QUALIFY.

3.  AS I SAID ABOVE, THE AUTHOR SEEMS TO THINK THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS A 'LIFESTYLE' AND  CHOICE.  HE'S WRONG ON BOTH COUNTS.  ANYONE CAN HAVE SEX WITH A PARTNER OF THE SAME SEX, THAT MAY WELL BE A CHOICE, BUT HETERO/HOMO-SEXUALS CAN NO MORE CHANGE SEXUAL ORIENTATION THAN A DOG CAN BECOME A CAT.

CURRENTLY MARRIAGE CONVEYS SPECIAL RIGHTS ON THOSE WHO ARE MARRIED. WHY SHOULDN'T ANY TWO PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE MARRIAGE BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE RIGHTS?

THE AUTHOR DOESN'T SAY, BUT HE OBVIOUSLY DOES WANT TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST A FEW IN OUR SOCIETY WHO ALSO WISH TO BE MARRIED.  WONDER WHY!

There are those who seek to change the definition of marriage to be two people of opposite sex...not clear why they wish to do so in the first place, but if they succeed, here's an article that shows why this may not be such a nice solution at all!


LOVE TO HEAR ANY REACTION.
THIS 'DEFENSE' OF MARRIAGE IS SIMPLY A RELIGIOUS TEST, NOTHING TO DO WITH 
DEMOCRACY AND AMERICA, IT STINKS OF THEOCRACY ACTUALLY.

NOT ALL CULTURES IN THE WORLD VIEW HOMOSEXUALITY WITH DISTAIN, 
IT OCCURS IN EVERY CULTURE ON EARTH, AT ABOUT THE SAME FREQUENCY AS HERE,
WHICH SIMPLY SHOWS THAT IT IS INNATE AND NOT A CHOICE...
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Cheers,

Frish

2 comments:

feetxxxl said...

thanks for the comments.


belief is credited as being from god, rather than from socialogical influences. since objective reason confronts and threatens belief then it also is considered as also being against god.

you are attempting to confront belief with with objective reason.


as is normal, the belif is established first, then next are attempts to find facts that support it. this is similar to creationism trying to legitimize itself as a science.



what also shows that humans do not use objective reason with things of religion.

except with the issue of homosexuality there is in additional a social belief system energized by cultural homophobia.

what is homophobia? it is a system of judgement that says because one is a homosexual he is also a string of other objectionable human traits and has a string of objectionable motives and intents

the source of homosexuality is really unimportant. there is a mijnority of people who capable of bonding with both sexes......they are called bisexual

what is important is the spirit of the bonding. and the spirit is the same as with heterosexual bonding. in other words it is done thru mutual love, affection, devotion,trust, and respect for shared committed life together.

in sprirtual terms it embraces and exudes the fruit of the spirit.

the other thing that amazes me among believers is this idea of illegitamacy based on procreation. when believers themselves are adopted.

objective reason says that procreation is not the most important thing but instead providing a loving nuturing home for raising children. this has been made evident by the adoption by committed gay couples of abandoned and rejected children of heterosexual unions.

Frish said...

I don't agree with the poster who commented, since belief may or may not have anything to do with god, and may come from objective/subjective observation without any prior knowledge of gods or dogs.

I think he agrees with me however.

LOL